Subject	you don't need both, you can log the knock sensor
Posted by	ztunerz on March 11, 2014 at 1:14 PM
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In Reply To	I don't see how it is better. They both have modern knock posted by MixManMash on March 11, 2014 at 09:50 AM
Message	and timing output on the haltech to detect knock. you can clearly see the spikes in the graph. He is most likely just using the amplifier part of the J&S to "hear" the knock via headphones. I use noise cancelling headphones with the J&S and you can definitely tell knock. Having the logs to back it up is crucial to allow you to tune the haltechs actual response to knock. IMO haltech kicks the stock ecus ass when it comes to knock control in ways more than one :) Harry Formerly yellowzxtt
Follow Ups	Mike Jackson's Z on the dyno. High Compression Twin GTX3576 - JDAVE 14:58:10 03/10/14 Mother of God. (n/m) - Bigwill837 15:02:22 03/10/14 More info and videos on Facebook.com/theZhookup (n/m) - JDAVE 15:05:59 03/10/14 Re: Mike Jackson's Z on the dyno. High Compression Twin GTX3576 - Obsolete84 15:07:17 03/10/14 Hooooooooooooooly! Angelina Jooooooooooolie! (n/m) - fuzzymonkey 15:18:05 03/10/14 Outstanding! (n/m) - StramanVerTT(GA) 15:19:22 03/10/14 Awesome...thanks for keeping me updated yesterday!!! - Piranha 15:21:29 03/10/14 What are you impressions of the increased compression - SirpriZ 15:23:23 03/10/14 I'm all for it. 10.5:1 and 758whp on 91 octane no knock - JDAVE 15:57:11 03/10/14 Interesting. Thanks. (n/m) - SirpriZ 17:54:26 03/10/14 Re: I'm all for it. 10.5:1 and 758whp on 91 octane no knock - wootwoot 18:54:48 03/10/14 For both our builds Mike & I had custom CP 88mm pistons made - JDAVE 19:19:56 03/10/14 Can you give some more info/thoughts. - Woody75 (Denver) 10:14:05 03/11/14 I'd say bc those are huge turbos and 30psi I believe... - The Hawk 16:10:16 03/11/14 30psi on 91 octane? (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 16:12:24 03/11/14 Check his FB...I think its showed on the dyno chart - The Hawk 16:15:48 03/11/14 Yes. I take it you know now, but 30PSI. (n/m) - The Hawk 18:38:44 03/12/14 The exhaust back pressure is what I would assume. - rcmadness 11:57:48 03/13/14 I agree with Woody. What is the high compression secret? - coma_ass 13:50:52 03/11/14 think you answered your own question - JaffaUK 14:08:36 03/11/14 indeed: trading quick spool up for efficiency - Zvil (FL) 15:40:05 03/11/14 Makes sense, thanks for that tidbit of info. I learned stuff (n/m) - ZinnZ32 11:23:12 03/12/14 What no one is talking about is how he avoided detonation. (n/m) - coma_ass 13:21:23 03/12/14 Hard to compare 2560 vs 3576.... (n/m) - The Hawk 16:12:03 03/11/14 Incredibly impressive - BigTDogg (MA) 16:04:38 03/10/14 2nd! (n/m) - Piranha 16:18:39 03/10/14 Ha! (n/m) - DSM_EX-DRIVER 20:59:18 03/10/14 Impossibru (n/m) - BlackholeZ 02:43:36 03/11/14 LOL....Awesome call! Winner of the day, no doubt! (n/m) - The Hawk 16:24:45 03/11/14 beat me to it (n/m) - LJZTT 18:40:45 03/11/14 Nice build! - sfarrah 16:18:05 03/10/14 THE sfarrah I presume...hey! (n/m) - SirpriZ 19:09:06 03/10/14 Wow, just Wow!!!!!!! (n/m) - HighPsi (NorCal) 16:24:49 03/10/14 Sweet baby jesus.. what boost levels? (n/m) - Stanky 16:42:35 03/10/14 Congrats Mike! Awesome build. I may switch to the high - DarkZide 17:07:16 03/10/14 Just beat it! - fuzzymonkey 17:19:17 03/10/14 Congratulation! Great #s (n/m) - induetime 17:36:37 03/10/14 Re: Mike Jackson's Z on the dyno. High Compression Twin GTX3576 - WazTTed 17:37:42 03/10/14 you guys are doing it wrong, you have to have a huge single - LJZTT 17:51:57 03/10/14 Or 2JZ swap (n/m) - black300zx 17:54:08 03/10/14 lol (n/m) - zQuikonE 13:58:23 03/11/14 Amazing!!!....Great job Mike! - RobZ32 18:49:40 03/10/14 Well played. (n/m) - dogpile 19:01:53 03/10/14 That is absolutely awesome. Hook me up! - ConVerTT 19:19:23 03/10/14 The dyno break gets the manifolds cookin! Check this pic out - JDAVE 19:24:05 03/10/14 Damn! (n/m) - Piranha 19:50:15 03/10/14 Brake* lol (n/m) - JDAVE 00:55:44 03/11/14 Wow. Amazing. Nice build. (n/m) - CameronSF 20:17:49 03/10/14 Damn (n/m) - DSM_EX-DRIVER 20:59:52 03/10/14 Most impressive! Over 1000HP from 6000 to 7500+RPM!!!!!!!!!! - LitlElvis 21:22:30 03/10/14 Wow! Congrats and nice work Mike. (n/m) - Boosted1 21:27:01 03/10/14 Can't wait to see what it does w/ more ethanol! - bartz32tt 22:23:22 03/10/14 High compression TT!!!!!! F#ckin right!!!!! That's how - TTZ2NV(EPTmotorsports) 04:06:09 03/11/14 Using J&S Knock Box while tuning? (n/m) - phillyz 04:33:55 03/11/14 The haltech has J&S functionality built in (n/m) - aliaZ 05:25:18 03/11/14 Is it better to have both j&s and use haltech knock setup? - KongZTT GT28RS MD 08:02:24 03/11/14 I don't see how it is better. They both have modern knock - MixManMash 09:50:01 03/11/14 you don't need both, you can log the knock sensor - ztunerz 13:14:39 03/11/14 I thought I was doing something at 800rwhp - my penis just - The Devils Z 06:05:10 03/11/14 Thats not true.. - eriksu9 08:38:19 03/11/14 I don't want to know how you know that. (n/m) - MixManMash 09:50:31 03/11/14 lmfao!!! (n/m) - phillyz 18:23:37 03/12/14 ... always a bigger fish ... - vorpalZ 10:13:34 03/11/14 these turbos are rather laggy .. doesnt catch up to my - The Devils Z 00:42:54 03/12/14 hater (n/m) - aliaZ 10:39:56 03/12/14 small penis complex ... LOL (n/m) - The Devils Z 20:16:00 03/12/14 I ran out of time to work on spool... - rcmadness 10:43:00 03/12/14 do you recall what your cam timing was in beast mode? (n/m) - aliaZ 11:08:18 03/12/14 It was 10 degrees advance on intake and exhaust - rcmadness 14:15:15 03/12/14 How shaved are your heads ? (n/m) - ztunerz 00:06:36 03/13/14 this is good to know -- please post an update when - The Devils Z 20:15:22 03/12/14 WOW! Very impressive. Great job, guys. (n/m) - cherry 08:46:29 03/11/14 Great work guys! Just curious, what kind of knock detection - Ash's Z 11:19:10 03/11/14 Haltech, headphones, and the J&S. (n/m) - JDAVE 11:49:37 03/11/14 Seems like hard work paid off. Congrats Mike! - TheTwinZ (Peru) 11:20:46 03/11/14 Very impressive guys >>> - ztunerz 13:20:15 03/11/14 Who says? We have multiple cars running then with E85 for - dogpile 19:15:58 03/11/14 Injector dynamic says. I'd like to believe then :) (n/m) - ztunerz 00:08:50 03/13/14 They never told us that. - dogpile 10:24:52 03/13/14 it's incredible how fast it jumps from 100 to 160mph (n/m) - moxie (SF) 13:23:24 03/11/14 you realize it is spinning right? (n/m) - zxtuner161 14:25:59 03/11/14 Apparently not... ;) (n/m) - The Hawk 16:28:20 03/11/14 Its not spinning, its when it breaks the sound barrier lol (n/m) - BOOZTD 3 19:32:52 03/11/14 If your tuning parameters aren't proprietary: - SirpriZ 13:28:30 03/11/14 Good job guys on pushing the platform further - zxtuner161 14:29:08 03/11/14 Awesome and very impressive.... - The Hawk 16:14:45 03/11/14 Thanks Jon David (JDAVE) and ZHookup crew! - rcmadness 16:33:30 03/11/14 I can't wait to see more from your Z Mike. I will contact - DarkZide 22:26:02 03/11/14 Thanks to all for the congrats! - rcmadness 16:34:55 03/11/14 Re: Mike Jackson's Z on the dyno. High Compression Twin GTX3576 - jlag 17:57:42 03/11/14 I can't find the reference to 30 psi in his post - SirpriZ 21:23:39 03/11/14 Wow. Those turbos are massive - ZXRider 19:09:44 03/11/14 YOU are crazy....really...do you ever sleep... - Z ONLY1 21:00:07 03/11/14 Re: Weak points - MikeC(NZ) 04:04:37 03/12/14 ^^^ ALL of this please - BlackholeZ 13:57:33 03/12/14 Couple things have changed so I just updated my profile - rcmadness 09:23:24 03/12/14 got any pics of your custom pistons? (n/m) - aliaZ 11:06:35 03/12/14 I will email them to you Don. - rcmadness 14:38:08 03/12/14 I have a photobucket account - aliaZ 16:18:40 03/12/14 Here are a few pics of the pisons - rcmadness 09:21:21 03/22/14 Amazing build!! Well done. What IC are you using? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 11:21:23 03/12/14 ASHSPEC Massives (n/m) - rcmadness 12:30:10 03/12/14 Well done! (n/m) - SeedyROM 17:56:52 03/12/14 thats some tq....... (n/m) - Dane (Houston) 11:13:56 03/12/14 That's awesome! This gives me hope - Lumpydonut 14:01:14 03/12/14
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